Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count

by howardpark, Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:27:03 PM EST

Virginia doesn't really, really count because:

1. Too many black people -- they even once elected a African-American Governor.

2. Too many educated people.

3. The traffic on the beltway was just horrible, how could that ever happen!

4. Too many mountain people, like in those Obama states like Idaho.

5. Too many white men.

6. Too many young people.

7. Too many independents and, gasp, they let them vote here!

your reason?




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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (2.00 / 1)

Too many latte drinkers.


by dmc2 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:29:39 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (1.00 / 1)

Wait a minute - there was bad traffic in the DC area? That's never hapened before. Obviously the Obamabots were deliberately causing accidents.


by PantherDem on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:32:27 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (2.00 / 1)

DC traffic is NOTHING!  NOTHING!!  Try driving around Chicago, SF or LA sometime and you'll PRAY for DC traffic ;-)


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by yitbos96bb on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:05:05 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

National traffic rankings:

1. LA
2. (tie) DC
Atlanta
4. San Francisco


by mcdave on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:27:03 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Never been to LA, but having grown up in Atlanta and now living in DC, I can say they shouldn't even rank on the same page.

Yeah, it takes forever to get around Atlanta.  But at least the road signs make some semblance of sense.  DC signs, plus DC traffic, makes it far, far worse.  Three hours to get across the city is something both have in common (actually, I never took 3 hours to get from one side of Atlanta to the other), but having roads split without warning and signs obstructed so badly you can't read them until past the point where they have any benefit is something much worse (and anyone who has tried to find the Mass Ave exit driving on 395 through the tunnel near the Senate knows what I'm talking about).


by Jay R on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:15:36 PM EST
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huh... (none / 0)

dc (especially beltway) traffic is worse than chicago.  eveb when the edens has lanes closed for construction, it's not as bad (as similar situations in the beltway).  la traffic is clearly the worst, afaic.  but that's because public transportation is scorned.  i wouldn't drive in san fran, so maybe that wins.  55 is easily matched by 95, and i think it best not to drive either during rush hour.

what i want to know is why you left out new york?  the long island expressway, anyone, on friday?  manhattan below city hall during a weekday?  yuck!

now if you want to argue that chicago has more construction time (dan ryan was, what, 3 years?), i'd think you have a point.  but i find it easier to get around in chicagoland than inside the beltway...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:33:11 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Too many new voters. We all know we don't want new people to engage in the political process as Democrats.


by animated on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:32:49 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Too many blind followers of The One with light shining from behind.


by Sandeep on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:36:11 PM EST

ain't that the fucking truth (1.00 / 2)

annoying AND creepy...

what a combo.


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:09:21 PM EST
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Re: ain't that the fucking truth (none / 0)

I don't know if Hillary is annoying and Creepy, but her campaign is, and Bill, who I once respected (foolishly...blindly...despite all his flaws..) is both annoying and creepy at this point.


Demeric
by Demeric on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:37:43 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

they have stupid accents


BHO/HRC 08
by omar little on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:36:15 PM EST

eh (none / 0)

not the ones votin' dem


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:10:23 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (2.00 / 0)

No one every suggested we don't count Virginia

Obama on the other hand wants us to not count Florida

Virginia may or may not MATTER


I believe in Hillary
by sonofdonkeykong on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:38:30 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

yeah, who needs Virginia?

It's not like it's going to be competitive in the General or anything...
Oh wait, they have a democrat as Senator... AND Governor?

Come on people, don't be so short sided, if we want to make states competitive we need to look at, and be competitive in states like Virginia!


by MrMacMan on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:42:11 PM EST
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1000 bucksVA goes to Mccain (none / 0)

Hillary or Obama.  Anyone?


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:07:33 PM EST
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Re: 1000 bucksVA goes to Mccain (none / 0)

a) http://www.raisingkaine.com/

b) Lots of people will take that bet.


by MrMacMan on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:43:03 PM EST
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1000 bucks (none / 0)

well, I'll take any money theyd wanna give me.

The dems won't be using VA in the electors map.  Whoever says that they will , doesnt know what the F they are talking about.


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:52:20 PM EST
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Re: 1000 bucks (none / 0)

it's becoming more and more blue everyday.

Turnout today shows it.
Getting a dem senator shows it.
Having a dem gov shows it.

Anyone who doesn't think it's not going to be competitive isn't thinking of the possibilities and to the greater goal of the 50 state strategy.


by MrMacMan on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:03:56 PM EST
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Re: 1000 bucks (none / 0)

Mark Warner is going to spend millions on the best GOTV program you've ever seen.  NoVa polling places will be flooded.

Yeah, this one's going blue.  It's not a certain bet, but if this isn't where the battle's being fought then we're in some serious trouble.


by Jay R on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:17:59 PM EST
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If you think so, (none / 0)

spend that money on intrade (www.intrade.com)

And while you're at it, you can get a great deal by betting on Clinton's chances of winning the nomination - they only have her at 27.5% right now, so you can almost quadruple your money.


John McCain
by MILiberal on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:00:34 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Yeah it's totally not fair to not seat FL. They had no idea that something like that could happen when the moved up the primary. Oh wait...


by illlaw1 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:52:34 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (1.00 / 1)

Hillary didn't want Florida to count either until she got in trouble and decided to be the only candidate to campaign there.


by AllergicToBS on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:55:20 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Hillary Clinton also said Florida didn't matter when she signed the 4 state pledge.  But now it is necessary in her delegate math so she's suddenly for seating those delegates.

Had Florida and Michigan not violated the DNC rules this wouldn't be an issue, but Hillary was complicit in that decision.


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by Vox Populi on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:58:51 PM EST
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Hey, at least it wasn't a caucus! (none / 0)

Now there is where Obama is really stealing the election!


by MrMacMan on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:39:23 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

This doesn't count because Virginia has too many people!


by cbfatih on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:44:54 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

No, no, no.  Not enough people.  The states with a lot of people are the only ones that DO count.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:19:45 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Because Hillary didn't win


by dogman on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:54:27 PM EST

Too many cultists (none / 0)

That has to be the reason.


by puma on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:02:50 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

I'm waiting for "He was supposed to win that one anyway." See, Hillary's 50%+1 strategy is to give up on any state she might not win, so it looks like she wasn't trying anyway.


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by X Stryker on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:10:57 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (2.00 / 1)

Could everyone please at least start by getting the facts straight about Florida?  AllergictoBS above should be breaking out in autoimmune hives. HILLARY DID NOT CAMPAIGN IN FLORIDA, DID NOT ADVERTISE IN FLORIDA.  

In fact, Obama had tv ads up in Florida.  His campaign explained that the ads were part of a national buy.  I'd like to know if the ads were airing in Iowa (well past the caucus there).

In the last 24 hours I heard both Frank Luntz and Nora O'Donnell say that Obama was not on the ballot in Florida.  YES HE WAS, AS WAS EDWARDS.  


On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:13:35 PM EST

It was (none / 0)

The ad was aired nationally. Nationally means nationally - including Iowa, as well as New Hampshire, Nevada, Michigan, and South Carolina.


John McCain
by MILiberal on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:21:36 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Right, she just had a bunch of "fund raisers" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) that were coincidentally scheduled in the state she pledged not to campaign in just a couuple days before the election she pledged wouldn't count but now she needs.  We understand, they were just "fund raisers"...


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:22:53 PM EST
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Look, (2.00 / 1)

I support Obama, but this is just stupid. How many voters do you convince anyways with a fundraiser?


John McCain
by MILiberal on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:43:57 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Obama won virginia because of all those low income voters and latino voters and white voters who favored him over Hillary. Damn them!


by beanbagz on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:13:54 PM EST

Moral victory for HRC (none / 0)

She appears to be holding her defeat within 30 percent .... just barely. BTW, youth vote according to CNN exit polls: Vote (18-24): Obama 89 Clinton 11 If you've seen the "Hillary and the Band" video, you'll understand this statistic.
by jmr1948 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:15:29 PM EST

well, the beltway knows hillary best... (none / 0)

so maybe it shouldn't count.  can't have the people who know her infecting the people who adore her...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:35:18 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Um.  This blow-out could get bigger.  At CNN, no returns have even come in yet from Richmond.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primari es/results/county/#val=VADEM11


by Drummond on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:42:02 PM EST

Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

Um, you won. You don't need to be sarcastic. Hillary lost, remember? Hillary supporters are hurtin' enough without you mocking us, OK?


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by forecaster15 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:56:32 PM EST

umm (none / 0)

classless


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:05:39 PM EST

Ignore the BamaBot trolls, please! (1.33 / 3)

They are trying to ruin this site the same way they destroyed dailykos.

IGNORE THEM. dkos has lost all its credibility, class and respectability because of these vermin.

If you don't want to see this site ruined BY TROLLS, ignore them!

These disciples of so-called THE GREAT UNITER are nothing but immature junior high school bullies - raised badly by bad parents - or more likely raised by wolves - not decent human beings at all.

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by Firefly4625 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:35:27 PM EST

Re: Ignore the BamaBot trolls, please! (none / 0)

excuse me? the obama-bots are ruining this website? What is ruining this website is all the negative attacks on both candidates in every diary. People need to grow up, including you. Just becuase people support obama doesn't mean that they are ignorant or "junior high school bullies". I come to this website to find news. When will you poeple realize that poeple who are on this placement are way too opinionated to actually change their mind so there is no point in trying to convince the readers that one candidate is more evil than the other


by ijm7 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:49:22 PM EST
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Re: Ignore the BamaBot trolls, please! (none / 0)

You obviously didn't read the childish, disgusting diary, dear.

This is how you bots started your crapfest at dkos - that place is complete trash now. So now you little Napoleons have a bug up your *ss to destroy every other site too.

You should be so proud...


by Firefly4625 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:54:17 PM EST
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it's too bad you are so childish... (none / 0)

i know that i was just having a little fun, mocking seymour and his endless "the sky is falling if we don't elect hillary, the sky is falling" posts.  it seems others were having a little bit of fun, too.

it's only an election.  it's not the end of the world.  both hillary and all the people obsessed with her will get over it.  you know, begula and carville are still out there, ready to save the day.  obviously, things just haven't gotten bad enough for them to swoop in and save hillaryland.  there, there, it will be okay!


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Wed Feb 13, 2008 at 08:01:51 AM EST
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Re: Ignore the BamaBot trolls, please! (1.00 / 1)

"Vermin?"

My Lord, how easily people lose perspective. That is unbelievably over-the-top.


by PantherDem on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:54:05 PM EST
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Re: Reasons Why Virginia Doesn't Really Count (none / 0)

ummmm, ummm.... Hillary didnt win... IT DOESNT COUNT!!!!


Who killed our leaders? Who holds our reins? Who is our enemy?
by dem sam on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:13:45 PM EST


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